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Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Google Shuffle?

When I launch my browser (Firefox) it starts with 4 tabs. The first three are the major engines with "seo services" in the query just so I can keep close tabs on how we're doing. The 4th is another Google datacenter with the same information. Yes, I'm that obsessed. It also gives me a close watch on what's going on at Google - I can constantly see any time a minor adjustment is underway.

When I walked in the door this morning, our Director of SEO Services Daryl Quenet asked me if I'd seen the results and who was up today. He was getting a different set of results than I had gotten just a short while earlier. After searching other phrases it became pretty clear - there's a minor update underway. If fact, we have one client that in the duration of a call was in position 3, then 22, then 13 and then 6 (and it was about a 5 minute call).

In the results for the competition for "seo services" I've admittedly been a bit disheartened with who we're competing against lately. As I've noted previously on our blog, there was once a time when we were up against WeBuildPages for the #1 spot. That isn't the case anymore and unfortunately, a lot of the sites now beating WeBuild have what I would consider to be "less that ideal" link strategies. To me, I'd almost rather be #2 in a solid competition against worthy opponents than #1 in a competition against sites that have sloughs of footer links and blogrolls. Basically, I'd rather be up against "real" linking strategies.

Unfortunately, it appears that the newer algorithm (and it's been this way for a while now) is favoring link strategies that go exactly against the best practices. I'm not going to name names here (you can check the backlinks of our competitors (and us too if you like) to find out who's doing what - on maybe spend your time researching your own industry) but here's some of what we're seeing get results that they shouldn't be:

Paid Links:
Ugh. There are numerous competitors out there who have bought links and are reaping the benefits. No matter what Matt and crew might say over at chez Google - they're just not as good at devaluing them as we're being told. One of the sites I was looking into has many paid links in obvious locations on irrelevant sites and is doing quite well with them. Now, I'm not saying go out and get yourself some paid links - it's always a risky venture but this is definitely the area of biggest annoyance to me as we have no paid links simply because we're not willing to risk our rankings and to watch sites climb into the top 10 with them, even after being reported, is annoying to those of us that have secured legitimate links with great effort and is hurting those that they beat out.

Links On Client Sites:
Alright, admittedly this is a tactic that I don't love but I can't really argue it. We tend not to put links on client sites. I personally find it to be in poor form to charge a client and then take a link from them HOWEVER there is a legitimate claim that this is advertising and giving credit where it's due.

Regardless of what side of the equation you're on in that debate though, should these really count as backlinks? They're not links given by the site owner as a vote, they're default links put there by the party that will benefit. Google needs to find a way to discount these links much better than they are right now.

Run Of Site Links:
This is an easy one. If a link appears on every page of a site - it shouldn't count. If it's there for traffic, great but I can't think of a single reason why a run-of-site link, any run-of-site link, should be legitimately counted as a vote. Even if the link is to a parent company - the link is not so much a vote as a disclaimer and should be treated as such.

Widgets:
This one might come right after paid links in my list of annoying links that shouldn't, but do, seem to be working right now. One of the sites I've found has that majority of their links coming from a counter that links with an image to their site. From what I can see, they don't even offer the counter on their site and thus - they likely (though not necessarily) have paid to have their link put in by the counter creator as a "sponsor".

In this case we have a paid link combined with a low quality, non-anchor text link (though the images to have alt tags) that it effective. This obviously shouldn't be the case if what we're trying to count are real, quality, vote-given links.

And So ...
So what's the purpose of this rant? Well, I know that people from Google visit our blog, I can see them in our stats and so my hope is that one of them will read this blog, take a look at how they're counting backlinks and give credit where it's due - to links worked for and earned by either providing valuable information, providing a valuable resource, or other such "tactics" that actually reflect a vote from one site to another rather than counting a default link with low value based on Google's own guidelines and articulated philosophy towards the subject.

And just to help things along I'm going to give a link to WeBuildPages for SEO services just to give them a boost. Now they just need to get their onsite optimization in place and perhaps we'll once again be up against companies that should be in the top ten. ;)

A Warning:
Now some of you may be thinking, "Hey, these tactics are working so let's do it !!!" If that's your mentality then I warn you to do so at your own risk. Google is trying to get a better value system in place for links and eventually they will succeed. If you're looking to only rank briefly then you might stand a chance but if what you want it to build a quality site that will withstand the ebb-and-flow of the algorithm over time (and I hope you are) then these tactics will eventually get caught and downward your site will tumble.

We're starting to see a very little bit of this in some cases (depending on which set of results we're seeing right now Google settles on) but not enough. My hope is that Google will be able to pick these links up, give them the credit they deserve (none in most cases) and let the true links acquired in mine and other industries count as they should.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008

Paid Links

This will be a very quick post to provide you, our valued readers, with a link. I've recently stumbled upon an interesting debate over at Sphinn based on an article by WeBuildPages' own Jim Boykin. The debate is on paid links and it's one of the more interesting I've seen recently with lines attempting to be drawn and people trying to figure out the different between an unguaranteed review (such as Yahoo!) and a paid review.

It's an eternal debate and won't be settled here but good to follow anyways. :)

You can read the back-and-forth at http://sphinn.com/story/24523.

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Friday, August 31, 2007

The People That You Meet

I gotta say, SES San Jose was awesome. While the sessions themselves are always interesting and there's always something to pick up from them - it's usually the networking and "aside" conversation that you have that are the most memorable. This thought inspired me to post a "the people that you meet" post with some of the more memorable people that I had the pleasure of meeting in San Jose.

Jim Boykin from WeBuildPages.com.Jim Boykin - WeBuildPages.com
It's been a long time that I've wanted to meet my arch nemesis. Jim's site and the Beanstalk site tend to bounce back-and-forth in the rankings and have done so for the last year. If we're not #1 for "seo services" I don't even have to look to see who is.

It was great to finally meet Jim and learn that, aside from being a thorn in my side in the rankings from time-to-time, he's an alround good guy and knows his SEO (I should certainly hope so or I'd have to take it personally that they oust us periodically).

Kristine Schachinger from TravelWorm.com.Kristine Schachinger - TravelWorm.com
Kristine was awesome to meet and a ton of fun. She managed to keep up with us SES'ers as far as the partying went but always kept her wits about her.

I also had the opportunity to meet the Travel Worm. This friendly little critter tried to eat my lunch but after a quiet threat to stick him on a hook and drop him into the ocean he let me eat in peace.

Ken Jurina from Epiar.com.Ken Jurina - Epiar.com
Ah Ken, ya gotta love him. I had to give him huge props for this shot. The camera wasn't working properly and he managed to keep my 180 pounds aloft for quite a while. Was it worth it, not so sure.

The truly shocking things about this pic is that we'd each only had a couple beers by this point in the night. ;)

Robert Garcia from Banler.com.Robert Garcia (rumblepup) - Banler.com
Robert is the guy on the right. If you follow my Flickr posts as well you'll recall that I first met him at SES New York a few months ago.

I spent many hours over the course of the week discussing everything from SEO to politics with Robert and look forward to the next SES to chat with him again. A great guy and, while he won't say so, a very good SEO - even if I did make him wrong once ;)

David Brown (neo) from Neo1SEO.com.David Brown (neo) - Neo1SEO.com
Running into David Brown reminded me that he is indeed a nice guy even though he tried to hit on my wife in New York (this is a joke). With forearms as large as my calves and a sense of humor that's even larger I'm now tagging him "the strongest SEO in the world".

In fact, if you're an SEO or blogger I'd truly appreciate if you'd link to http://www.neo1seo.com/about-neo1-seo.htm with the text "the strongest SEO in the world". It's an inside joke but it's a funny one. You can gather from this pic where the name came from and I'll note, he didn't lose an arm wrestle all night even though he was up against people coming in fresh. Nicely done David !!!

Glenn Convey from Metamend.com.Glenn Convey - Metamend.com
Glenn is the President of Metamend, my old arch nemesis before I started competing with WeBuildPages.com. Now I hope Glenn knows it wasn't personal (seeing as how he didn't work there at the time). They're also a Victoria, BC based SEO firm so of course, they had to make my "hit list".

"Unfortunately" I got to know Glenn at this SES event and I learned, well, darn it - he's a nice guy and I look forward to seeing him again at future SES events and hopefully at some local tech functions.

Michael Gray from Wolf-Howl.com.Michael Gray - Wolf-Howl.com
Michael gave what was easily one of the most talked about presentations at SES San Jose 2007. He discussed paid links and basically blasted Google for having the "nerve" to tell webmasters what they can and cannot do on their own websites to monetize them.

While I don't necessarily agree with everything Michael said I do have to agree that it's Google's job, not ours, to find ways to determine whether a link should be considered a vote towards a site. And for you few Google employees who visit our site each day (and you know who you are) please note that Michael in no way paid for the link above. :)

Ken Leonard from Hackersafe.com.Ken Leonard - Hackersafe.com
Ken hosted a dinner and man, can he pick great food. I had the pleasure of sitting beside Ken and he's both a gentleman and a scholar. A truly enjoyable meal with great company.

Also sitting at the table with me was Christian Wilson (see below), Bryan Eisenberg (author of a book I'm a huge fan of, "Waiting For Your Cat To Bark") - Bryan, it was a true pleasure to meet you, Cresta Pilsbury (also from HackerSafe) and others who were sitting farther away from me and thus, I didn't have the pleasure to get to know.

Christian Wilson from WebsiteMagazine.com.Christian Wilson - WebsiteMagazine.com
As always it's a pleasure to chat with Christian. I met him at SES San Jose last year, again in New York and once again had the pleasure of his company this year.

Christian is an all around great guy, a credit to his company, and was kind enough to hold on to my bag of geek-toys overnight saving me from having to hit the hotel before heading off to the Google Dance (and with the lineups to get there, that saved me about an hour).

Big thanks to Christian and his fine publication to which I am a subscriber (and you should too, heck - it's free :). Click here to sign up.


Big apologies to the many people that I met who couldn't make the list. There were a couple criteria I had to weed it down to - I needed to have a picture, I needed to have chatted with you for a while, and well - I needed to think that it was great to have met you. Admittedly, the picture issue is the most limiting as I often found myself so interested in the conversations that I didn't stop to get a picture taken such as occurred in my many conversation with Bill Slawski (and if you read this Bill - you really did make me nervous as heck in the personalization session :).

Thanks to everyone who made SES San Jose the great success that it was. Special thanks to Chris Sherman, Danny Sullivan, Incisive Media, Bill Slawski, Jim Hedger, and my wife for creating the environment that I get to share and partake of new and insightful ways to do the job I love so much.

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